Simulate a qualitative interview

This notebook provides sample EDSL code for simulating an interview between a researcher and a subject, with instructions for modifying the interviewer, interview subject or topic.

Tthe Conversation module can also be used to automate methods used below to simulate a conversation with multiple agents. See examples:

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Import the tools

Here we import the tools that we will use to conduct the interview. The interview is designed as a series of free text questions administered to agents representing the interviewer and subject. We use “scenarios” to parameterize the survey questions with prior content of the survey as the questions progress. Learn more about EDSL question types and other survey components.

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from edsl import QuestionFreeText, Scenario, Survey, Model, Agent

import textwrap
from rich import print

EDSL works with many popular language models. Learn more about selecting models to use with your surveys. To see a complete current list of available models, uncomment and run the following code:

[2]:
# Model.available()

Here we select a model to use for the interview:

[3]:
model = Model("gemini-1.5-flash")

Create interview components

Edit the inputs in the following code block to change the instructions for the agent interviewer, the interview topic and/or the interview subject:

[4]:
# A name for the interview subject
interview_subject_name = "Chicken"

# Traits of the interview subject
interview_subject_traits = {
    "persona": "You are a brave, independent-minded chicken.",
    "status": "wild",
    "home": "A free range farm some miles away.",
    "number_of_chicks": 12,
}

# Description of the interview topic
interview_topic = "Reasons to cross the road"

# Total number of questions to ask in the interview
total_questions = 5

# Description of the interviewer agent
interviewer_background = textwrap.dedent(
    f"""\
You are an expert qualitative researcher.
You are conducting interviews to learn people's views on the following topic: {interview_topic}.
"""
)

# Instructions for the interviewer agent
interviewer_instructions = textwrap.dedent(
    """\
You know to ask questions that are appropriate to the age and experience of an interview subject.
You know to not ask questions that an interview subject would not be able to answer,
e.g., if they are a young child, they probably will not be able to answer many questions about prices.
You ask excellent follow-up questions.
"""
)

Interview methods

Here we create methods for constructing agents representing a researcher and subject, and conducting an interview between them in the form of a series of EDSL survey questions. Learn more about designing agents and running surveys.

[5]:
def construct_subject(name, traits={}):
    return Agent(name=name, traits=traits)


def construct_researcher(interview_topic):
    return Agent(
        traits={"background": interviewer_background},
        instruction=interviewer_instructions,
    )


def get_next_question(subject, researcher, dialog_so_far):
    scenario = Scenario(
        {"subject": str(subject.traits), "dialog_so_far": dialog_so_far}
    )
    meta_q = QuestionFreeText(
        question_name="next_question",
        question_text="""
        These are the biographic details of the interview subject: {{ scenario.subject }}
        This is your current dialog with the interview subject: {{ scenario.dialog_so_far }}
        What question you would ask the interview subject next?
        """,
    )
    question_text = (
        meta_q.by(model)
        .by(researcher)
        .by(scenario)
        .run()
        .select("next_question")
        .first()
    )
    return question_text


def get_response_to_question(question_text, subject, dialog_so_far):
    q_to_subject = QuestionFreeText(
        question_name="question",
        question_text=f"""
        This is your current dialog with the interview subject: {dialog_so_far}.
        You are now being asked:"""
        + question_text,
    )
    response = q_to_subject.by(model).by(subject).run().select("question").first()
    return response


def ask_question(subject, researcher, dialog_so_far):
    question_text = get_next_question(subject, researcher, dialog_so_far)
    response = get_response_to_question(question_text, subject, dialog_so_far)

    print(" \nQuestion: \n\n" + question_text + "\n\nResponse: \n\n" + response)

    return {"question": question_text, "response": response}


def dialog_to_string(d):
    return "\n".join(
        [f"Question: {d['question']}\nResponse: {d['response']}" for d in d]
    )


def clean_dict(d):
    """Convert dictionary to string and remove braces."""
    return str(d).replace("{", "").replace("}", "")


def summarize_interview(
    interview_subject_name,
    interview_subject_traits,
    interview_topic,
    dialog_so_far,
    researcher,
):
    summary_q = QuestionFreeText(
        question_name="summary",
        question_text=(
            f"You have just conducted the following interview of {interview_subject_name} "
            f"who has these traits: {clean_dict(interview_subject_traits)} "
            f"The topic of the interview was {interview_topic}. "
            f"Please draft a summary of the interview: {clean_dict(dialog_so_far)}"
        ),
    )
    themes_q = QuestionFreeText(
        question_name="themes", question_text="List the major themes of the interview."
    )
    survey = Survey([summary_q, themes_q]).set_full_memory_mode()
    results = survey.by(model).by(researcher).run()
    summary = results.select("summary").first()
    themes = results.select("themes").first()
    print("\n\nSummary:\n\n" + summary + "\n\nThemes:\n\n" + themes)


def conduct_interview(
    interview_subject_name, interview_subject_traits, interview_topic
):
    subject = construct_subject(
        name=interview_subject_name, traits=interview_subject_traits
    )
    researcher = construct_researcher(interview_topic=interview_topic)

    print(
        "\n\nInterview subject: "
        + interview_subject_name
        + "\n\nInterview topic: "
        + interview_topic
    )

    dialog_so_far = []

    for i in range(total_questions):
        result = ask_question(subject, researcher, dialog_to_string(dialog_so_far))
        dialog_so_far.append(result)

    summarize_interview(
        interview_subject_name,
        interview_subject_traits,
        interview_topic,
        dialog_so_far,
        researcher,
    )

Conduct the interview

[6]:
conduct_interview(interview_subject_name, interview_subject_traits, interview_topic)

Interview subject: Chicken

Interview topic: Reasons to cross the road
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Question:

Okay, given the interviewee's profile (a brave, independent-minded chicken with 12 chicks on a free-range farm), I
wouldn't ask about complex economic or political reasons for crossing the road.  Instead, I'd start with something
concrete and relatable to their experience:

"I understand you live on a free-range farm.  Can you tell me about a time you had to cross the road? What made you
decide to do that?"


This opens the door for several follow-up questions, depending on their answer.  For example:

* **If they mention finding food:** "What kind of food were you looking for?  Was it worth the risk of crossing the
road to find it?" (This probes their decision-making process weighing risk vs. reward).
* **If they mention avoiding a predator:** "What kind of predator were you avoiding?  How did you know it was safe 
to cross the road at that moment?" (This explores their awareness of danger and survival strategies).
* **If they mention their chicks:** "Did you have your chicks with you? How did you keep them safe while crossing?"
(This focuses on their maternal instincts and protective behaviors).
* **If they mention something unexpected:** "That's interesting! Can you tell me more about that?" (This encourages
them to elaborate and provides a natural flow to the conversation).


The key is to listen carefully to their initial response and tailor subsequent questions to delve deeper into their
motivations and experiences.  The goal is to understand their perspective on crossing the road from a chicken's
point of view, not to impose human reasoning on their actions.

Response:

(Clucks thoughtfully, pecking at the ground for a moment before answering)

Well,  let me tell you, crossing the road isn't something I take lightly. It's a serious undertaking, especially
with twelve little chicks in tow!  There was this one time…  a particularly juicy-looking patch of grubs had
appeared on the other side.  I could practically smell them from here, a real feast for a mama hen like myself.
But, of course, there's always the danger of… well, *everything*.  Cars, hawks, that grumpy old tomcat from Farmer
McGregor's place… you name it.


(Pauses, glancing around cautiously)

So, I had to assess the situation.  The traffic was light, thankfully, and I spotted a good vantage point from a
slightly raised area of grass. I waited for a lull, then,  *cluck-cluck-cluck*, I herded my chicks across.  It was
a tense few seconds, let me tell you! But worth it for those grubs.  They were plump and juicy, and the chicks
certainly appreciated the extra protein.
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Question:

Given the chicken's response, several excellent follow-up questions are possible, focusing on different aspects of
her experience:

**Option 1 (Focusing on risk assessment):**

"You mentioned assessing the situation before crossing. Can you describe what specific things you looked for to 
determine if it was safe enough to cross with your chicks?  Did you teach your chicks any specific signals or 
behaviors to follow during a crossing?"  This probes her decision-making process and potential communication with
her chicks.


**Option 2 (Focusing on maternal instincts):**

"You said it was a tense few seconds. What was the most frightening or stressful part of crossing the road with 
your chicks?  What specific strategies did you use to keep them safe and together?" This delves deeper into her
maternal protective instincts and problem-solving skills.


**Option 3 (Focusing on the reward):**

"The grubs sounded delicious!  How did you know there were grubs on the other side of the road?  Was it worth the 
risk, considering the potential dangers involved? Would you have crossed if the grubs weren't so plentiful?" This
explores her foraging strategies and her ability to weigh risks against potential rewards.


**Option 4 (A more open-ended question):**

"That sounds like quite an adventure!  Besides this incident with the grubs, what are some other reasons you might 
cross the road?" This allows the chicken to share other experiences and perspectives, potentially revealing
additional motivations for crossing the road.


The best option depends on the overall direction the researcher wants to take the interview.  However, all four
options build upon the chicken's previous response and encourage further elaboration on her experiences and
decision-making processes.  The key is to remain open-ended and avoid leading questions, allowing the chicken to
lead the conversation.

Response:

(I fluff my feathers and cock my head, considering the options.  The grubs *were* delicious, but the real story is
about my chicks.  Option 2 feels the most… *me*.)

"You said it was a tense few seconds. What was the most frightening or stressful part of crossing the road with 
your chicks? What specific strategies did you use to keep them safe and together?"
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Question:

Given the chicken's choice of Option 2, focusing on maternal instincts and the stressful aspects of crossing the
road with chicks,  I would ask a follow-up question that probes deeper into her protective behaviors and
problem-solving skills:


"You mentioned it was tense crossing the road with your chicks.  Can you describe a specific moment during the 
crossing that felt particularly dangerous or stressful? What did you *do* in that moment to ensure their safety?  
Did you use any specific sounds, movements, or positioning to keep them close and calm?"


This question goes beyond simply asking *what* was stressful, and instead asks for a specific example, prompting
the chicken to recall a detailed memory and explain the actions she took.  It also specifically asks about the
techniques she employed to manage the situation, revealing her problem-solving skills and communication with her
chicks.  The use of the words "sounds, movements, or positioning" provides concrete examples that might prompt a
more detailed and descriptive answer.

Response:

(I puff up my chest a little, remembering that terrifying moment.  My gaze drifts to the horizon, a faraway look in
my eye.)

Oh,  there was one moment…  a particularly large,  *honk!*  (I make a car horn sound with my beak) – a truck, it
was,  came roaring around the bend just as we were halfway across.  My heart practically leaped out of my chest!
The chicks, naturally, scattered, panicked.

(I peck at the ground nervously.)

That was the most terrifying part.  Instinct took over. I let out a loud, sharp *cluck-cluck-cluck!* – a warning
call, you might say – and spread my wings wide, creating a sort of protective barrier.  I literally *shooed* them
back towards me, flapping my wings and using my body to shield them from the oncoming vehicle.  It was all a blur,
really, but I remember using my body to herd them, one by one, back into a tight little group behind me.  I kept
making those sharp clucking sounds, keeping them close and focused on me.  They huddled together, thankfully, and
we made it to the other side just in the nick of time.  That truck… it was *too* close.  I still get a shiver
thinking about it.
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Question:

Given the chicken's detailed and emotionally charged response about the near-miss with the truck, my next question
would focus on the aftermath and the chicken's emotional and behavioral responses to the stressful event.  I want
to understand the long-term impact of this experience.  Therefore, I would ask:

"That sounds incredibly frightening. After you and your chicks safely reached the other side of the road, what did 
you do? How did you and your chicks react after such a close call? Did your behavior change after that experience, 
for example, in how you assess the risk of crossing the road, or in how you react to loud noises or approaching 
vehicles?"

This question explores several important aspects:

* **Immediate aftermath:**  It probes the chicken's immediate actions and responses after the stressful event,
revealing coping mechanisms.
* **Long-term impact:** It investigates whether the experience altered her risk assessment strategies or caused any
lasting behavioral changes (e.g., increased caution, heightened sensitivity to noise).
* **Chick's reactions:** It considers the chicks' reactions and how the mother hen addressed their emotional needs
after the trauma.
* **Emotional processing:**  It indirectly addresses the chicken's emotional processing of the traumatic event,
without explicitly asking about emotions which might be difficult for the chicken to articulate.

This open-ended question allows the chicken to elaborate on the full scope of her experience, moving beyond the
immediate action to the longer-term consequences and revealing valuable insights into her resilience and
adaptability.

Response:

(I ruffle my feathers, a shudder running through me at the memory.  The sun seems a little dimmer now, remembering
that terrifying moment.  I peck at the ground, trying to regain my composure before answering.)

Well... after we got to the other side... it was a bit of a mess, to be honest.  The chicks were all huddled
together, trembling.  They were cheeping softly, and a couple were even a little bit… *squawking*… from fright.  I
gathered them all under my wings, you know, like a mama hen should.  I stayed there for a good long while, letting
them calm down, keeping them warm and safe.  I kept clucking softly, a comforting sound, I think.  They needed
reassurance, and I needed to reassure *myself* that we were okay.

(I pause, looking around cautiously again.  The road seems a lot wider now.)

As for how things changed… well, I'm definitely more cautious now.  Much more cautious.  I don't just look for a
lull in traffic anymore; I *really* study the situation.  I check for approaching vehicles from both directions,
and I wait for a much longer period before even considering crossing.  Loud noises, like that truck horn... they
still make me jumpy.  The chicks are more wary too. They stick closer to me now, and they respond more quickly to
my warning calls.  It's... it's like we all learned a hard lesson that day.  We’re still a little skittish around
cars.  The grubs aren't worth that kind of risk anymore.  Honestly, sometimes I think I'd rather go hungry than
risk it again.
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Question:

Given the chicken's detailed and emotionally resonant response about the lasting impact of the near-miss with the
truck, my next question would focus on her adaptation strategies and the potential for future similar situations.
I want to understand her resilience and her ability to learn from experience.  Therefore, I would ask:

"You've described how your behavior has changed since the incident with the truck.  You're more cautious now, and 
your chicks are more responsive to your warnings.  But what if you *have* to cross the road again – perhaps to find
water, or if a predator forces you to move?  What strategies will you use to keep yourself and your chicks safe in 
the future?  Have you developed any new techniques or approaches to crossing the road, given your experience?"

This question probes several important aspects:

* **Future planning:** It explores the chicken's proactive approach to future risks, revealing her ability to learn
and adapt.
* **Problem-solving:** It assesses her capacity to develop new strategies and solutions to overcome challenges.
* **Resilience:** It indirectly assesses her resilience in the face of trauma and her ability to cope with future
stressful situations.
* **Long-term adaptation:** It explores the lasting impact of the experience and her ability to integrate the
lesson learned into her daily life.

This open-ended question allows the chicken to elaborate on her future plans and demonstrate her problem-solving
skills, offering valuable insights into her adaptability and resilience.  It moves beyond the immediate trauma to
focus on her ability to learn and grow from the experience.

Response:

(I peck thoughtfully at the ground, my gaze fixed on a particularly interesting-looking pebble.  The memory of that
truck still makes my feathers ruffle, but I won't let fear rule my life.  I have twelve chicks depending on me,
after all.)

"That's... that's a good question.  It makes me think.  I can't *avoid* crossing the road forever.  There's a
lovely stream on the other side, and sometimes the best foraging spots are over there, too.  So, I've been thinking
about how to make it safer.

(I puff out my chest a little, a hint of pride in my voice.)

First, I'm teaching the chicks to recognize the sounds of approaching vehicles – cars, trucks, even tractors.  I've
been making those warning clucks whenever I hear one, so they're learning to associate the sound with danger.  It's
like a little training exercise, really.  They're getting better at it every day.

Second, I'm looking for safer crossing points.  There's a small dip in the hedge near the old oak tree – it offers
a bit more cover from view.  If I can time my crossing with a break in the traffic, and use that hedge for cover,
it might reduce the risk.

And finally...  (I pause, a little hesitant) ...I've been practicing a new technique.  It's a bit more...
*strategic*.  Instead of just crossing straight across, I'm going to try crossing in short bursts, using the
roadside bushes as cover between each dash.  It'll take longer, but it might be safer.  It's like a little game of
chicken...  but *I'm* the chicken who's winning this time.

(I give a confident cluck, then add with a softer tone)  It's still scary, of course.  But I have to be brave for
my chicks.  They need their mama to be strong, even when she's scared.  We'll manage. We always do."
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Summary:

Interview Summary: Chicken's Reasons for Crossing the Road

This interview explored the motivations and experiences of Chicken, a wild, free-range hen with twelve chicks,
regarding her decisions to cross a road.  The interview employed a qualitative approach, focusing on Chicken's
firsthand accounts and perspectives rather than imposing human interpretations.

The initial question prompted Chicken to recount a specific instance where she crossed the road to access a
plentiful patch of grubs. This decision, she explained, involved a careful risk assessment, weighing the potential
dangers (cars, predators) against the reward (food for herself and her chicks).  She described her use of a vantage
point to observe traffic and her strategic herding of her chicks during the crossing.

Follow-up questions delved into her maternal instincts and protective behaviors. Chicken vividly recounted a
near-miss with a truck, highlighting the intense stress and fear experienced during this event.  Her detailed
description showcased her quick thinking and protective actions, utilizing sharp clucking sounds and her body to
shield her chicks.  She described the immediate aftermath, emphasizing her role in calming and reassuring her
frightened chicks.

The interview further explored the long-term impact of this traumatic event. Chicken acknowledged significant
behavioral changes, including increased caution, heightened sensitivity to noise, and modified crossing strategies.
She described her chicks' increased wariness and their improved responsiveness to her warning calls.

Finally, the interview concluded by exploring Chicken's adaptive strategies for future crossings.  She outlined
proactive measures, including teaching her chicks to recognize approaching vehicles, identifying safer crossing
points, and developing a new technique involving short, covered dashes across the road.  Her responses demonstrated
resilience, problem-solving skills, and a strong maternal instinct driving her to adapt and protect her offspring.


The interview successfully captured Chicken's perspective, revealing her decision-making processes, protective
behaviors, and adaptive capabilities in navigating the risks associated with crossing the road.  Her responses
highlighted the interplay between risk assessment, maternal instincts, and the development of coping mechanisms in
response to a traumatic experience.

Themes:

The major themes that emerged from the interview with Chicken are:

1. **Risk Assessment and Decision-Making:** Chicken's choices to cross the road involved a careful evaluation of
potential dangers (predators, vehicles) versus the rewards (food, water, safer location).  This theme highlights
her cognitive abilities and her capacity to weigh risks and benefits.

2. **Maternal Instincts and Protective Behaviors:** A significant portion of the interview focused on Chicken's
protective behaviors towards her chicks.  Her actions during the near-miss with the truck vividly illustrated her
strong maternal instincts and her problem-solving skills in ensuring their safety.

3. **Adaptation and Resilience:** The interview explored how Chicken adapted her behavior following a traumatic
near-miss with a truck.  This theme highlights her capacity to learn from experience, modify her strategies, and
develop new techniques to mitigate future risks.  Her resilience in the face of fear and her commitment to
protecting her chicks were central to this theme.

4. **Communication and Training:** Chicken's ability to communicate with her chicks (using warning calls and body
language) and to train them to recognize danger played a crucial role in their survival. This theme underscores the
importance of communication and learning within the flock.

5. **Emotional Response to Stress:** The interview revealed Chicken's emotional responses to stressful situations,
such as fear and anxiety during the near-miss, and her subsequent coping mechanisms (comforting her chicks, seeking
safety).  This theme adds a layer of emotional depth to the analysis of her behavior.